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afterwards. but by the time of 2002 until 2011 or 12, gun violence in the uk has plummeted by 44%. you simply cannot argue with facts and statistics like that. in australia, a massacre in 1996, inleapt into action. and in a consensus, they instituted a ban on the sale, import, ownership of semi automatics, what's known as assault rifles and pistols and again the gun crime plummeted like a stone. and harvard university did a really important study. they looked at massacres in the 18 years before the new laws. there were 13. 102 people were killed. after the new laws in australia, not one multiple shooting. facts don't lie. >> but they don't have a second amendment. they don't have the second amendment. >> it's not just the second amendment, though. we're in a political moment here where two forces are in tremendous conflict. one is this national revulsion at what happened. the polls have moved very quickly. >> six in ten said they would like to see the kind of gun used to kill those children, that bushmaster rifle outlawed. >> absolutely. that's a real phenomenon and you can see it in the reac
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